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The medical establishment asserts all long COVID infection; others believe it can also result from COVID vaccines.

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Thank you, Joel, for your important acknowledgement of the debilitating symptoms of Long COVID. Too many people dismiss this syndrome as simple hypochondria w/o understand the systemic effects of the virus. For example, the spike protein (both viral and vaccinal) is known to reactivate latent viruses like EBV (Epstein-Barr) which causes Mononucleosis and has been linked to Chronic Fatigue.

It is also worth nothing that low cortisol levels are not hard to explain at all. When we are under stress of any type for extended periods of time, cortisol is initially activated ~ but then, if the stress is unrelenting, our stores of cortisol will eventually be depleted, and our blood levels of cortisol will obviously test low. People with adrenal fatigue have known this for decades.

Learn more about options for treating Long COVID:

> https://workflowy.com/s/beyond-covid-19/SoQPdY75WJteLUYx#/026b4e1bd888

In this context, it is important to note that symptoms of Long COVID in the UNvaccinated are very similar to some of the symptoms in the Post-COVID Vaccine Injury Syndrome. For this reason, the treatment protocols for *both* syndromes are worth exploring.

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Eugyppius took up the same study in his discussion suggesting Long COVID is a social construct. I side with Eugyppius on this one.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/long-covid-is-a-social-construct?r=x488&utm_medium=ios

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Low cortisol levels are not surprising here at all. They are common in chronic fatigue syndrome and I've read that physicians like Jacob Teitelbaum treat long-COVID patients similarly to how they treat those with chronic fatigue syndrome. Low cortisol levels are also associated with a "propensity toward autoimmune disease." (Griffin & Ojeda, Textbook of Endocrine Physiology , 3rd ed.), which makes one wonder whether those with long-COVID might be moving in that direction, despite this study not finding autoantibodies.

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FLCCC.net

their protocols work & are constantly tweaked. Long covid treatments may also include hyperbarics. The website shows a presentation by Dr. Harch. Additionally, autophagy helps. The FLCCC website is a treasure.

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But I believe that group has not published any statistics on exactly how well what they advocate works; what people and what symptoms.

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Joel, they are very transparent. Strongly suggest you do a zoom with Drs. Kory & Marik.

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True transparency for me means giving detailed data on how well their protocols work: how many people are fully cured of specific conditions. Give statistics.

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How would like to attend the FLCCC Orlando conference 10/16-19 where your questions will be answered?

How many people were fully protected by the experimental injections v. those who died from them, were injured by them? Is there full transparency from DoD? CDC? Pfizer? FDA?

I’m not being cantankerous. The late Dr. Zelenko cured 9000 patients. I think he lost 1–a 90+ year old man. Uttar Pradesh gave packets of Vit D, C, Ivermectin, an antibiotic, etc. & had single digit covid deaths. What was the death rate in hospitals using Fauci’s remdesivir protocol? Approx 1/3? You’ll receive better transparency from those doctors daring to abide by their Hippocratic Oath than hospitals on the take from the fed government & Pfizer.

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So these were the groups....guess which group they haven't included? Unvaccinated with "long covid". Why on earth not, I mean after all, they tell us that vaccination prevents it so they must surely have been able to find plenty of unvaccinated LC sufferers....

Are they seriously telling us that the LC groups contained significant numbers of vaccinated, but they're not telling us exactly how many.

Clown research.

215 participants composed of four groups:

(1) healthy, uninfected controls (Healthy Controls or ‘HC’);

(2) healthy, unvaccinated, previously SARS-CoV-2-infected historical controls (Healthcare Workers or ‘HCW’);

(3) healthy, previously SARSCoV-2 infected controls without persistent symptoms (Convalescent Controls or ‘CC’); and

(4) individuals with persistent symptoms following acute SARS-CoV-2 infection (Long COVID or ‘LC’).

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They are jab injured or convinced they have some illness they don't as far as I'm concerned. I certainly don't see any proof in your article, and calling people idiots pretty much tells me to ignore your info.

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I did not call anyone an idiot.

It is not my information; it is solid medical research information that proves blood damage from "vaccines." If you want to ignore this information, reflect on your thinking.

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Thank You for all your work helping that TRUTH be known.

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Thank You for all your work helping that TRUTH be known.

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